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New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

Posted: 999098302000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1009989912000
I have created a new web site from my database of 105,000+ individuals that includes several families and numerous entries. There are individual pages for many families indexed on the surname page. The site includes pictures, maps and biographical info, as well as some general genealogy info and some good links. The site is searchable and includes a table of contents. Please visit;
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walkersj/index.htm

Re: New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

m bodtker (View posts)
Posted: 1058148677000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Phipps Bodtker
Are you able to connect relationship between Sir William and the Asa Phipps who was born August 12, 1798, at Lisle in Broome County NY State, from whom I and so many others are descended?

I had info that a Stephanie Walker could probably help make this connection; is that you?

Re: New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

Stephanie Walker (View posts)
Posted: 1058191073000
Classification: Query
I am that Stephanie! According to my research, Asa Phipps of Lisle, NY has no connection to Sir William. He was a descendant of Solomon Phipps of Charlestown. Solomon was not connected to Sir William in any way that has been proven at this time. The ancestry of Solomon and William have been pretty much nailed down back a couple of generations, and there has not been any relationship discovered. There were several Phipps families in England at the time of their immigration to the US.
I would be interested in any further information you might have on ASA's descendants as I have very little on the descendants and would like to add to the database and webpage.
Thanks!

Re: New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

m bodtker (View posts)
Posted: 1058235771000
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Phipps Bodtker
Asa Phip(p)s shown by me as born 8-12-1798 near Lisle, NY, and as having been the father of several children over rather a long period, including one Oliver, born there...then leaving for attempted settlement near site of London, Ontario, spent two years there then on to Macomb County, Michigan, where my ancestor Alden Jackson Phipps Sr was born to him in 1831. It would appear that some of the elder siblings reached maturity in Michigan and remained in that state, see re Burton and Barbara Phipps on Google, Art and Joyce Lundin, etc.

After spending several years as a lumberjack in the Thumb of Mich and upper Wisconsin, AJP Sr settled near Rockford in Winnebago Co, IL, circa 1858. His parents had moved there and there they died according to my records. It was there c1859 that AJP Sr married Philura Muller (Miller?), see Friedman and Trask connections. This marriage lasted for life, issue included first two daughters, Esmeralda (Aunt Rill) and Nellie, and only later my great grandfather Alden Jackson Phipps Jr, born 1866, died 1956, and finally his younger brother Roy, born c1873, the boys were born near Sigourney, Keokuk Co, Iowa, where the family removed in 1866.

AJJr was most famous for surviving the winter of 1879-80 alone at age 14 in a dugout into the side of a wash in w-cent Codington County, So Dakota, holding down a claim so that the rest of the family could come up in the spring. We have the picture of them all in their Sunday best in front of their substantial sod house there in Sept 1884. This homestead place has been visited by me many times as a child, and it was there that my grandmother Cleora Mary Phipps Bodtker, was born on Oct 8 1888 and was married Jan 20 1909 to Wilfred G Bodtker, and there that she gave birth on Sep 2 1913 to my father Maxwell G Bodtker who is still living near Landrum, So Carolina. Cleora and her husband later bought this place back and lived there from 1953 until 1966. She died at Berrien Springs, Mich in Feb of 1980.

(It was she who always assured us that we were descended from the famous William Phipps who was governor of Mass during the Salem witch trials and told the witches they could hang and be damned. Also that he had been a rich man from his Spanish galleons he salvaged in the West Indies. She also assured us we were descended from the Aldens of Mayflower and Plymouth fame.)

Re: New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

m bodtker (View posts)
Posted: 1058238805000
Classification: Query
By Solomon, do you mean the silversmith Solomon Phip(p)s born 10 Jan 1675 in CharlesTown, Mass, who had a brother Thomas born 22 Nov 1676, same city? We would have assumed both of those to be sons of (the later Sir and Gov) WIlliam Phip(p)s of Maine, born 1651 at Kennebec, now Phippsburg, Maine?

Two other family legends from Cleora, my grandmother: that we had an ancestor, grandfather of Asa, who fought in the Continental Army the whole five years of the Revolution 1777-81 inclusive; was THIS Solomon?

That we had an ancestor who was in the British army in Quebec province somewhere who swam the St Lawrence to desert and escape to the American side, to New England to fight in the Revolution? This too from the Phipps side.

Re: New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

m bodtker (View posts)
Posted: 1058239555000
Classification: Query
We do show WIlliam to be in the Boston area at the time that Solomon and Thomas were born; are we to take it that there was another Phipps family in Boston at that time besides William and his numerous siblings? But I have never seen a reference to who may have been the father of Solomon if it were not William or one of his siblings from the Maine line? Do records exist like a census, of who all Phippses may have been in Boston in c1660 to 1690?

In addition to Cleora, AJ Phipps Jr had a daughter Eufemia (Effie) born about 1890; then sons Roy and Hallett born about 1899-1901 and finally a daugher Bessie (Elizabeth) born about 1905 who died just a couple years ago in a nursing home in Dousman, Wisconsin... All of those born on that same farm 8 miles north of Henry and 6 miles S of Wallace, SD. In my grandmothers girlhood, she taught school at times and said she babysat with the three year old Hubert Humphrey once when his parents went to Minneapolis.

Effie's married name was Mc Tavish and her descendants are still farming near Marshall, Sask, Canada according to my records. Roy was married to Agnes of South Bend, Ind, but there were no children. She was long a county official at Pierre, S Dak. Hallett was a police officer at Pierre for a long time and is said here to have died in Rapid City, SD in the Seventies...No mention as to whether or not any children. Bessie's married name was Hoefer, and she lived at Worthington MN during her prime and married years. She had a son and daughter as I recall.

Re: New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

Stephanie Walker (View posts)
Posted: 1058275874000
Classification: Query
Please see my web page that will answer many of your questions. Follow the links to the Solomon Phipps family pages. You will find an Asa Phipps recorded as the son of a Samuel Phipps of Lisle, NY. I have nothing on his descendants. To my knowledge, it has not been proven that this Asa was the same Asa as ASA K. Phipps, your ancestor. It makes sense that it is the same person, but definite proof is lacking at this point. The Asa in Lisle was descended from Solomon Phipps (b. 1619) who came to Charlestown, MA in the 1630s or 1640s from England. About that same time, James Phips (b. @1610) settled in Maine from Bristol, England. Solomon and James had different parentage and were from different parts of England. They could possibly have been cousins, but that has never been proven. James Phips was the father of Sir William. Sir William had no biological descendants, but had an adopted son Spencer who was the nephew of his wife. Spencer's family is well documented and were loyalists during the Revolutionary War, returning to England during that time. My own family also claimed we were 'descended from Sir William', when in fact we were descended from his brother John. I have the family of James Phips well documented on the web pages.
The families of James, Solomon, Spencer and Asa K. are all shown on my web pages and can be found by following various links. I have studied this family for 25+ years and have a lot of information on these early lines. Still, have found no connection between Solomon and James, the two earliest Phipps settlers in New England. Many families latch on to Sir William as their 'ancestor', but the fact is, he had no descendants. Hope this has helped. Let me know if you have further questions. I am happy to help out if I can.

Re: New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

Posted: 1142027860000
Classification: Query
Dear M,

I just finished reading on your info on the Phipps. The information I have is as follows:

Alden Jackson Phipps was born in Macomb county, Michigan, July 30, 1831.

His father, Asa K. Phipps, was a native of Broome county, New York, where he was born in 1800. He died in Winnebago county, Illinois on January 11, 1874. His grandfather was a soldier in the Revolutionary War and a descendant of the renowned Commodore Phipps of England.

Alden Jackson Phipps' mother's name was Hannah Butterfield, who was born in Vermont in the year 1800. She died in Winnebago county, Illinois in 1853.

Alden Jackson Phipps married Philura O. Miller on February 18, 1853. She was born in Seneca county, Ohio, on July 5, 1836 and is a daughter of Nathaniel and Martha (Trask) Miller.
Her father was born in Massachusetts in 1807 and died in Winnebago county, Illinois in January of 1858. Her mother was born in Ohio in 1801 and died in Mitchell county, Iowa in 1879. There were ten children in the family, five daughters and five sons. She was the eight child.

Alden and Philura were the parents of eight children whose names and dates of birth follow:
Esmeralda, January 5, 1856, born in Fillmore county, Minnesota
Charles N., January 13, 1858, born in Fillmore county, Minnesota
Anna A., September 4, 1860, born in Fillmore county, Minnesota
Josephine, September 4, 1862, born in Keokuk county, Iowa
Alden J., Jr., October 28, 1865, born in Keokuk county, Iowa
Frank S., January 18, 1869 - died 1889, born in Keokuk county, Iowa
Nellie K., April 30, 1871- died 1883, born in Keokuk county, Iowa
Roy A. , June 16, 1877, born in Keokuk county, Iowa

I hope this helps. I got this information from my aunt in Minnesota, who in turn got it from "Biographical sketch & photos of Mr. & Mrs. Alden J. Phipps taken from: Compendium of Nat'l Biograpphy & Compendium of Local (So. Dak) Biography put. Geo. A. Ggle & Co., Chicago - 1898". If you would like a copy of it, please let me know and I'll be happy to either e-mail it to you, or fax it to you. If you have any information you'd like to pass on, that would be appreciated. Thank you.

Ramona

Re: New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

Posted: 1246065640000
Classification: Query
I know this was an old post. I am a decendent from Alden Jackson Phipps. I would be interested in receiving a copy of this information. my e-mail address is anita.onorato@gmail.com.

Thank you
Anita

Re: New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

Posted: 1306896417000
Classification: Query
I was looking up my family history and this just so happens to be my family. My grandma is beatrice june phipps... later know as ms.(don) bestrice parish. Her dad was leon phipps who dies in 1994 he commited suicide I remember it happening. Its weird learning where I came from.
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