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Derby or Stanley?

Derby or Stanley?

Posted: 1301164601000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Stanley, Derby, Chipman, Hastings
This post was deleted by the author on 26 Jun 2017 10:08AM GMT

Re: Derby or Stanley?

Posted: 1301329462000
Classification: Query
It appears that at least one web site concerning the Derby surname confuses that surname with that of Stanley, Earls of Derby (also Smith-Stanley), incorrectly listing several Stanley Earls of Derby as being of the Derby surname. The current Earl of Derby is Edwad Stanley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Derby

Possibly causing some of the confusion is the fact that Edward George Geoffrey Smith-Stanley, 14th Earl of Derby, who was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom under Queen Victoria, was at times referred to as “Lord Derby” alluding to his title not his surname. Elsewhere he is called Lord Stanley. He probably wasn't the only Stanley Earl of Derby to be called Lord Derby. Also, Derby, British Columbia was named for him although the Stanley Cup is named for his second son, Frederick Arthur Stanley, a Governor-General of Canada. Someone seeing the names Derby and Stanley used interchangeably may have missed the fact that, again, Derby was the title, Stanley was the surname.

This does not completely rule out a possible connection between the two families by marriage, a younger son changing his name, etc. But I checked The Complete Peerage, vol iv, Burke’s Peerage, Burke’s Landed Gentry, vol I, and Burke’s Commoners to see if there was any such connection but I wasn’t able to find anything.

Jay

Re: Derby or Stanley?

Posted: 1301342991000
Classification: Query
This post was deleted by the author on 26 Jun 2017 10:08AM GMT

Re: Derby or Stanley?

Posted: 1382809142000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Stanley/Goushill/Hardwick
With reference to STANLEY. Stanley is a very small village on the border between Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire.

Re Lord Stanley - Title

Joan Goushill, daughter of Sir Robert Goushill, the Dowager Duchess of Norfolk (wife of Thoms Mowbray 1st Duke of Norfolk), Lady Elizabeth (born 1366) Mowbray, nee FitzAlan, daughter of the 10th EARL of Arundel. Joan Goushill born c1402 at Hoveringham Hall, Hoveringham, Nottinghamshire, married Lord Stanley who lived in the county of Lancashire. His title was BARON and she was Baroness. See how to address persons who have a social RANK in the British Aristocracy. The Goushills married into the Hardwick Family of Hardwick Hall, Derbyshire. Sir John Hardwick b1451 and his son Joscelyn fought at the Battle of Bosworth, 1485 for Henry Tudor, together with their kinsman, Lord Stanley. Hope you enjoy this bit of history.

Re: Derby or Stanley?

Posted: 1498401498000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Derby
I too am wondering about this. Robert Derby is a direct descendant of mine via my maternal grandfather. I have him listed in my tree as being a descendant of Anne Hastings, and I hope it is true. Seems like i might be missing a generation...
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